As the conversation progressed, the words became sharper. He spoke of his willingness and that of others in Gaza, according to him, to continue the struggle even after the heavy price. "By G-d, by G-d, by G-d," he said, "even if all the people of Gaza lose their lives, we will defend our land that was stolen from us by force."
Later he returned again to his hope for the "liberation" of the land and said: "The day that was promised to us will come, with G-d's help. This land will be liberated."
He accused Israel of what was done in the Strip during the war and said: "You responded to us and destroyed the stone, the trees and the people. You left no one safe in his home." He added: "You committed against us the most terrible crimes."
Toward the end of the conversation he moved to speak of an accounting that, according to him, is yet to come. "A day will come when we will stand before G-d," he said. "With our Master in Heaven there is justice." He continued: "Injustice is darkness and injustice never lasts forever. Everyone who has a right against another will receive it. You will be judged before G-d."
And again he repeated the same sentence: "The end of this entity is near, very near."
Three years after October 7, after the destruction in Gaza, after the losses and after everything that has changed in the Middle East - has anything in his worldview changed? At least from this conversation, the answer was clear: no.
He ended the conversation by repeating again his hope for future victory: "Anyone who thinks we in Gaza are finished: no, we are not finished. On the contrary. G-d has placed strength in our hearts and patience, and with G-d's help we will prevail in the end."
And then came his final sentence: "This day is yours, tomorrow is ours. Goodbye."
Sometimes you don't need long speeches or complicated explanations about the Middle East. Sometimes you just need to know Arabic, open your ears and listen to what they are telling us to our faces.